ESPN.com is reporting that seven Catholic basketball powers are talking about leaving the Big East. It’s a little late for that, since the Big East left them years ago, opting for football bowl money and damaging the heritage of the conference.

There’s nothing left – a bunch of strangers in a cuckoo conference, sending softball players and soccer players on long plane rides for conference matches, spending fortunes to justify incoming fortunes from the football television pool.

It’s all gone wrong. The presidents of the seven schools should take a deep breath and get out. The original partners slipped out the door years ago, leaving a bunch of strangers lounging around the premises with more strangers on the way. Have a little pride. Get out. 

The survivors cannot leave out of sheer nostalgia. Eddie Pinckney and Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin are not coming back to play in one of the most amazing Final Fours ever – 1985. In less than a decade, they created one of the great basketball conferences ever, but then television football loot made everybody crazy. 

They need a new model. They could call it the Northeast Quadrant Catholic Basketball We-Know-Who-We-Are Conference. Stick to the business of offering a focused education on essentially urban campuses.

Big-time hoops are still a risky business for St. John’s, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Providence, Villanova, DePaul and Marquette, but at least they can get back to a more clear self-image and not get over their heads in football, with its gigantic rosters, bowl shenanigans, concussion legacies and recruiting frenzies.

Know thyself. The Ivy League has been stable forever. New York University gave up the big time, all for the better. City College educates New Yorkers rather than entertain gamblers and strangers. Nobody’s ever persuaded me what big-time sports have to do with education, anyway.

Big-time basketball is still something of a dance with, you should pardon the expression, the devil. But the football arrangement was blatantly Faustian.  

If the survivors turn out the lights on the Big East as they go out the door, it doesn’t matter. The party’s over.

The ESPN story: http://espn.go.com/new-york/college-sports/story/_/id/8742607/seven-catholic-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say

 


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Charley
12/13/2012 12:03pm

Big East basketball provided me many, many thrilling moments. I will miss it greatly. Fie on college football, greed and corrupt college presidents.

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12/13/2012 12:22pm

George

There are two levels of intercollegiate athletics. The NCAA and Big Programs business model which is driving all the conference switching, exploits the "student athletes" leaving far too many with either empty degrees or none at all.

Then there are the "true student athletes" who balance tough academic requirements and the demands of a sport. All to often, many of these are sacrificed to the business side when money become tight. It would be heresy to save them by eliminating a few football scholarships.

Joe Nocera exposed the system in considerable detail in the NY Times of December 12, 2012.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/opinion/nocera-show-me-the-money.html?ref=joenocera

There is nothing else to add as George and Joe said it all.

A healthy and joyous holiday and New Year to all.

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Ed Martin
12/13/2012 1:18pm

Charley says it for me. Who could forget Bg John Thompson wearing a "Louie" sweater? Who could forget Walter Berry blocking the little Pearl's last second layup to win the Big East title.

There are a number of schools that could join a Roman Eight BB conference. Or they might recruit Brandeis for balance.




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John McDermott
12/13/2012 4:30pm

One of the things I've struggled to explain to my wife, who graduated from a top German university, is why US institutions of higher learning have sports teams-which look like professional teams to hear, imagine that-that play games in front of huge crowds and on television. "What does all that have to do with getting an education?", she asked. It all started out innocently enough, I explain, but then money came into it...The whole recent Penn State scandal really kind defied any kind of rational explanation, or understanding. For her, and also for me.

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George Vecsey
12/14/2012 9:17am

John, I imagine you've already told her how it started with mostly students, who attended university for the usual reasons, but teams began slipping in athletes, coaches, paid admissions, etc. It just happened. Even as craven as big-time sports university presidents are today -- check out Harvey Araton's comments on the hypocrisy of UConn -- their ancestors probably never imagine a cast of characters today -- recruiters, tramp athletes, coaches, compliant admissions directors etc., to say nothing of the NCAA. Now it's too late. Individual schools can do something - Uof Chicago, NYU. It does look bizrre from the outside. Regards, GV

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John McDermott
12/14/2012 9:40pm

George, to me the best of college sports will always be stuff like Haverford vs. Swarthmore soccer or track and Philadelphia Big Five basketball in the 60's. The rot came in with the big money and some of the alumni who never grew up. Sorry, but when the football coach earns ten times more than the university president and 20 to 30 times more than a professor then you know something is seriously out of order.

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12/16/2012 7:31pm


John

In addition to being 100% on target, you brought back many fond memories.

I played for Lehigh back in the 50’s. Haverford, Swarthmore, Ursinus, Bucknell and Muhlenberg were among our regularly scheduled opponents. These schools epitomized what student athletics is all about. I doubt if any of us were on scholarships, unless it was an academic one. The crowds were not very large, but they saw very exciting soccer, at least from the players’ point of view.

There was something unique about a Philadelphia Mainline train station being not far from one of the goal posts at Haverford. You felt that you were playing in a special place.

Tom Gola of La Salle University was another great player to watch. He moved smoothly and was also a factor away from the ball.

I’m not a knee-jerk advocate of the good old days, but college sports in the 50’s and 60’s were the best.

Altenir Silva
12/15/2012 12:03pm

Dear George,

My friend, I know it has nothing to do with your post, but I want to wish you Happy Holidays.

Altenir Silva (from Rio de Janeiro)

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12/15/2012 7:58pm

Altiner

Good wishes are always welcome regardless of the topic.

We were married on Christmas Eve in 1961 and honeymooned in Mexico. We were surprised when we arrived in Mexico City to see the Three Kings and the weather in the mid-seventies. It was very festive, but a little strange without snow.

Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo

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Altenir Silva
12/15/2012 9:51pm

Alan, thank you! Happy Holidays for you too!
Best - Altenir

Brian Savin
12/17/2012 12:25am

Well, they did it! But it looks to me the idea is simply to not share basketball revenue and try to make basketball the new football. An argument can be made they are the same. In both sports the college kids serve as the principal "unpaid" minor leaguers. Different in baseball.

What if there were some law (take your pick, under the Commerce Clause, Thirteenth Amendment, RICO, etc.) requiring all professional sports to have minor league organizations of a size sufficient to supply the need? Then let the "college" kids decide if they want to get paid or get an education. Would that change things usefully?

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